Episode 49 - Danie C. Muniz: The Journey from Catholic Disciple to Eclectic Witch

Witchcraft is considered “evil” in the eyes of the Catholic church, which makes this conversation with Danie C. Muniz fascinating.

She went from devote Christian, active in her church to entering the world of astrology, akashic records, and witchcraft.

The journey she took was one of remembrance, feeling more and more called back to her true self – the divinity within her.

I absolutely love conversations about religion and spirituality and I hope you love this discussion as much as I did.

More about Danie C. Muniz 👇

As a Spiritual Counselor, Intuitive Astrologer & Akashic Records Practitioner for over 15 years, she's helped hundreds of healers, coaches and conscious leaders release past traumas, generational & ancestral paradigms and fears that are holding them back from fulfilling their Souls evolution.

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Lindsay Ford: I have Danny C. Mooneys with me today. Welcome to the podcast. Danny.

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Danie C. Muniz: Thank you. I'm excited to be here, Lindsay.

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Lindsay Ford: I'm super excited about this conversation. Anytime. I get to talk about like religion and spirituality with someone like I'm all for it. So we're gonna have a good conversation today.

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Danie C. Muniz: I'm totally here for that.

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, amazing. All right. So you

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Lindsay Ford: you do. Astrology Akashic records.

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Lindsay Ford: you started off sort of raised in the Catholic church. And

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah. Now you identify. I'm guessing more spirituality. You've mentioned witchcraft in your application. I'm excited to get into that. So walk us through that journey. I'm guessing you were raised Catholic. That's where you started. And then, yeah, how did this happen?

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah, so it's really interesting, because my family is, or what? Well, I guess they still are are, you know, grew up in that energy of Catholicism. So they definitely I wouldn't say that my parents were

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Danie C. Muniz: strict Catholics in that sense of like. They went to church every Sunday, and

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Danie C. Muniz: my grandparents, on the other hand, were very much that way. And so my mom's parents were very focused on religion, and they would show up to church every Sunday. And there was a point. My mom really thought that it was important that I got, you know, my sacraments through the church, and and all of that. And so, at 17 years old.

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Danie C. Muniz: she had never had her confirmation. Which is that last kind of right before you. You get married right? And so she wanted to complete that because she felt it was important.

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Danie C. Muniz: and she wanted me to complete that as well. And so I was just on the edge of like 17 about to be 18, where my mom was like, let's do this together

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Danie C. Muniz: as adults. You're an adult now, and you can go through these classes as an adult, and let's do it together. And I thought like, Oh, this is great something to do with my mom. And I do want to learn about this church that we go to. You know every so often that my grandparents take me to. I felt a calling to it, and so I was really curious. So we took these classes together.

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Danie C. Muniz: and I got my 1st communion. I got my confirmation. I think it was like a 9 week course or something. It wasn't very long, but it was long enough to learn some things about the church.

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Danie C. Muniz: and I graduated from high school.

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Danie C. Muniz: and at the time I was really involved in music

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Danie C. Muniz: in performing

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Danie C. Muniz: damn.

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Danie C. Muniz: and so I wanted an outlet for that. Still.

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Danie C. Muniz: I didn't see it in college.

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Danie C. Muniz: but I wanted another outlet. And so I looked at my local church that we had moved to a new city, and I looked at the local church, and they were looking for youth musicians.

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Danie C. Muniz: And I was a singer.

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Danie C. Muniz: And I thought, Wow, what a better way to give back to the church

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Danie C. Muniz: than to join in this community! And that's really what it was for me. It was community. I was seeking community. I was in a new neighborhood, and I just wanted people.

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Danie C. Muniz: and so I dove in.

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Danie C. Muniz: I mean, I was in church every single Sunday for multiple masses. I started serving the youth so, being like a youth leader to like the younger kids. I started teaching in the church, and I was just involved, like people just saw me everywhere. People knew me everywhere. I just became a part of that practice

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Danie C. Muniz: and along that journey, because I was there about from 18 to about 36 years old. So about 18 years.

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Danie C. Muniz: I was heavy, heavily involved, and there were times where I questioned things, but it wasn't really a lot of questioning. It was just like accepting and accepting and accepting, and I felt like I was. So it became so ingrained in who I was that I became like this preacher to all the people like you need to go to church, and I would tell my parents like you need to go to church. You need to confess your sins.

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Danie C. Muniz: And then I met my current love.

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Danie C. Muniz: and he tells me

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Danie C. Muniz: I'm spiritual.

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Danie C. Muniz: and I was like

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Danie C. Muniz: cool. I'm religious like I didn't have any concept of spirituality. I had no understanding of any of that stuff.

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Danie C. Muniz: and so he took me to a reiki circle.

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Danie C. Muniz: I had no idea what Reiki was.

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Danie C. Muniz: I had no idea what they were doing.

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Danie C. Muniz: but they told us

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Danie C. Muniz: to just put your hands and concentrate your energy towards healing this person.

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Danie C. Muniz: And I thought.

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Danie C. Muniz: Well, that's weird.

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Danie C. Muniz: but that's also really cool.

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Danie C. Muniz: And so then I got an opportunity to lay down, and then the hands came on me.

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Danie C. Muniz: and I was like, Whoa!

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Danie C. Muniz: This is interesting. We have that power like we can heal ourselves. And so

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Danie C. Muniz: I started looking into more things.

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Danie C. Muniz: And so

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Danie C. Muniz: it was so hard, though, because I was so

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Danie C. Muniz: stuck in the ideas and the ideologies of the Church, which I still to this day believe they have a place, and I believe that there is a lot of beauty within the rituals of religion.

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Danie C. Muniz: I don't necessarily agree with the teachings as much anymore as I used to.

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Danie C. Muniz: but I can still understand them. But there came a point where

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Danie C. Muniz: the humanness of people in the church

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Danie C. Muniz: became so

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Danie C. Muniz: discombobulating for me that I couldn't stay any longer.

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Danie C. Muniz: because I started to explore all of these other ideas like, I took a class on developing intuition.

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Danie C. Muniz: And I was like, this is, this is powerful.

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Danie C. Muniz: And I started to see the separation between this man in the sky on a cloud.

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Danie C. Muniz: and the power that was within me.

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Danie C. Muniz: and that just became such a great divide

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Danie C. Muniz: that I could no longer resonate with the teachings of the Church. And so there was a situation that happened where it it put me in a position to say, Am I going to stay with the church, or am I going to go and discover something new? And at the time, I can tell you, Lindsay, I was not

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Danie C. Muniz: thinking in any way, shape or form that I would have ever have left the church. I didn't know like, what do people do on Sundays? Because you just go to church on Sundays like that was just my life.

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Danie C. Muniz: I had no idea that there was this other world out there, and there was another perspective and another way of doing things. I just knew what I knew.

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Danie C. Muniz: And so until something else was shown to me.

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Danie C. Muniz: I didn't know. And then I just got really curious, and dove straight in.

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Lindsay Ford: That you know that disconnect or like, yeah, that that you know man in the sky type of, you know.

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Lindsay Ford: teaching versus

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Lindsay Ford: how I will phrase, it is the God within me like that that piece of source, God, universe, whatever that is in me, that is speaking to me, and I can tune into and can help heal myself can help others heal has that like. That's where the intuition, like the guidance like.

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Lindsay Ford: There's so much in us, and I think that is really like for me, where the disconnect with the Church was that

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Lindsay Ford: it? It? It teaches that there is something outside of you that is coming to save you. It doesn't feel empowering from within.

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Lindsay Ford: I'm just curious to go back to your comment about the humanness. Is that is that what you meant by that? Or is there like, okay.

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah, I think because you know, the situation involved

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Danie C. Muniz: the limitations of human

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Danie C. Muniz: like our limitations of. And I think it's also like growing up in. I mean, it was with a a priest, and the viewpoint that this priest had on the world versus

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Danie C. Muniz: what I was trying to bring forward was, it just didn't match, and because my perspective had opened so much, and I could see things very differently than the ideology of the Church, it just it didn't match anymore. And so it was in his own limitation, in my own limitation, until I understood something different. But yeah, I would say, like, I think

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Danie C. Muniz: this idea of something being outside of you is what could no longer like it no longer fit for me. I felt so empowered by what I was able to do, and what what it was capable, what I was like capable of.

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Danie C. Muniz: that I couldn't even sing the songs, I mean. I was like the lead cantor in the church, and I couldn't even sing those songs anymore. They just didn't like the words coming out of my mouth like, I want to take them back like. No, I don't want to give my power away to God.

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Danie C. Muniz: I want. I want to work with God.

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Danie C. Muniz: I want to be this channel.

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Danie C. Muniz: and not just from creation. But what else? What else is there? What else is there? I was just so curious that like that just didn't fit for me anymore.

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Lindsay Ford: Oh, I'm just getting like full body tingles as you're speaking about this. This is, it's.

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Lindsay Ford: you know, the empowerment piece, that self empowerment piece.

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Lindsay Ford: I just feel like

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Lindsay Ford: I want to shout that from the rooftops of just like like you are powerful. We are all so so powerful beyond what we

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Lindsay Ford: understand

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Lindsay Ford: now, did you have conversations with your priest about what you were learning at Reiki and into like about intuition? And yeah, what were those conversations like.

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah. So I never got to have those conversations specifically with the priest. I did have conversations with a deacon, because in this

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Danie C. Muniz: there's a lot that kind of happened during those few years. As I was transitioning out of the church, we can say I had left an 11 year relationship. And so, because I was very much in the Catholic Church, we had to go through these classes as a newly engaged couple, and

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Danie C. Muniz: I had. We had taken this like test to see how compatible we were. If we had talked about some of these discussions that you have about being a married couple, and we had been together, like, I think, almost 11 years. So like we knew each other. We lived together for most of those years.

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Danie C. Muniz: but this deacon that I went to talk to

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Danie C. Muniz: kept telling me like well, and let me just be clear here. It was more so of me perceiving the way that he said things to me about

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Danie C. Muniz: you're basically wrong, and you've got to kind of suck it up and follow the path of God. Right? It was like, Follow Jesus. It was like very much. I was in the wrong, and I needed to turn it over to God that God would fix everything. But there was so much wrong in that relationship.

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Danie C. Muniz: And so I would have these conversations. And then I had a really good friend at the time, and I would have these conversations with him, and he's like, what do Danny know like? Go to the teachings, go to the Bible like, Go back here, and

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Danie C. Muniz: I couldn't really find the answers, though it didn't make sense to me. Something was off, and I knew it, but I kept trying to force it. Well, I got to a point where I decided not to go through with that marriage, not to get married, and I mean there's a whole lot more in there. But

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Danie C. Muniz: I decided not to go through with that, and I chose my cell.

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Danie C. Muniz: and everybody around me didn't understand that choice. And so that is really what led me to seeing things outside of what I had already known. So these conversations that I was having with people in the church, they just kept referring me back to the Bible, back to the teachings. Just go, pray to God you're just not praying enough to God, Danny, and it's like no, that wasn't it. There was clearly something off in

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Danie C. Muniz: my relationship and in the teachings that I, how I understood them.

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Danie C. Muniz: And then, when my love opened me up to all these other new things. And then I started exploring on my own because I was like, Wait, what is all of this? And I'm over here researching all of these things. That's when I got into astrology because I started like, what is this? And that's where the witchcraft started to come in, because there was this whole other world that I had no idea what it was, and so

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Danie C. Muniz: I didn't ever get to have like. I would love to go back and have those conversations. I don't know if they would ever be open to those types of conversations. I will say that I am very blessed to have people in my life. I have clients who are still

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Danie C. Muniz: in their religion, and I would say they are very open, though, to other ideas and other ways of looking at things. And and I think that that's beautiful. I think if you can still

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Danie C. Muniz: have a belief of something that is, there's something greater than you. There is also something

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Danie C. Muniz: that you can still empower yourself through and with. Then why not?

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Danie C. Muniz: Why not have that belief? If the belief is serving you, then why change it.

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, I love. I love that. And I want to get into astrology. But 1st I just want to sort of reflect on something you just said, we're just like you're not praying enough. Go back to the Bible, and you're not getting the answers from the Bible.

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Lindsay Ford: and

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Lindsay Ford: what I sort of

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Lindsay Ford: I'm hearing, just as I'm like processing this through. My own experience is like your prayers are being answered. It's just not on script, with what everyone wants it to be.

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Danie C. Muniz: 100%.

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Danie C. Muniz: Our prayers are always answered, or, you know, looking at it from a little bit more of a spiritual lens, you might say, manifesting, you're always manifesting. You're always manifesting what your true heart desire is, and that was my true heart desire, which I did not know. I was disconnected from. I had no idea what it was

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Danie C. Muniz: was this freedom and this remembering of these practices that are very natural, that are part of the natural cycles and rhythms of Mother Earth.

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Danie C. Muniz: like there's nothing. It just. It drives me crazy when it's like, Oh, that's the devil, or right, like, okay, well, low vibration is the devil. Let's just say that. So if you're having, if you're gossiping and having like these low, vibrating thoughts and ideas, then that's the devil if we want to really think about it. I mean, I don't know. That's just it's just.

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Lindsay Ford: I love. I love the word you just used remembering it does feel like you're just. You're remembering you're coming back to home, which, which, when you really think about like, you're coming back to source that God essence of you like you're you are remembering who you really are, deep down. So let's get into astrology because you said

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Lindsay Ford: you said you found astrology. What?

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Lindsay Ford: What did you find.

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah. So my love asked me, we were we were like driving back from somewhere, and he's like, so

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Danie C. Muniz: do you know your moon sign, and I was like.

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Danie C. Muniz: What is that?

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Danie C. Muniz: And he's like, well, you know, you have, like your sun sign like astrology, and I was like, Oh, I'm a gemini like, Yeah.

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Danie C. Muniz: he's like, No, but what about your moon? And I was like, what are you talking about? Like? What does that mean? And he's like in ancient religions. They actually believed the moon was more important than the sun sign, because the moon is our emotional energy. It's our drive. It's our. It's like that, like emotions drive everything that we do. And so I thought, oh, that's very interesting.

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Danie C. Muniz: How do I figure out what my moon sign is, he's like, Oh, you just go to the site, put in your birth information. So I had to figure out my time and all of that.

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Danie C. Muniz: And so I put it in. And it came back as a cancer moon. And so immediately, right, I went to Google. And I'm like, what is a cancer moon like, what does that mean? And I like I don't know. It was probably like a 3 h dive into the energy of cancer. The moon, like the lunar cycle like, I just started

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Danie C. Muniz: diving in. And then I text him. And I was like, I'm a cancer moon.

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Danie C. Muniz: And he was like, that makes total sense.

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Danie C. Muniz: And I was like, Okay, and and it did it just like it all clicked in my head. It was like.

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Danie C. Muniz: this is why I feel this way. This is why I'm emotional. This is why I cry at the most weirdest things. This is why I have so much empathy. This is why I care so much about my family, and it was really hard for me to go through some really challenging times with my family because of some of the things that I was doing and thinking and believing. And I was like, but it was really hard, like I couldn't just say, Well.

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Danie C. Muniz: forget, you guys, I'm out. I was still so connected to my family, and it made so much sense to me.

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Danie C. Muniz: And then the biggest lesson of all was in our relationship.

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Danie C. Muniz: My love is an Aquarius moon, which is really almost the opposite of a cancer moon. The Aquarius moon is more logical.

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Danie C. Muniz: It has to think things through, and it has to make sense of the emotion. It is one of the most detached of all emotions which is great from, you know, we're in an emergency, and I don't want to run off my emotion. I want to run off logic right? It's great for being able to see perspective on something. But when it comes to

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Danie C. Muniz: empathy, when it comes to connection on a deep emotional level that is very challenging for them, where I, on the other hand, am all emotion and no logic.

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Danie C. Muniz: And so we were on opposite spectrums.

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Danie C. Muniz: and it came into we had just moved in together. I think we had lived together, maybe a few months, and I started to see the challenges in the relationship of certain things, and I couldn't figure it out. And when I learned that I immediately was like, this makes sense. And so we actually sat down

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Danie C. Muniz: and had a conversation about it

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Danie C. Muniz: because

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Danie C. Muniz: he was like, I can't give you

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Danie C. Muniz: the emotional support that you need as a cancer moon.

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Danie C. Muniz: and that just

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Danie C. Muniz: rocked my entire world.

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Danie C. Muniz: Because here I just committed right to this relationship to this person

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Danie C. Muniz: that had opened my eyes to so much, and yet

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Lindsay Ford: hard, uncomfortable conversation like that in a relationship is massive, like kudos to both of you for being able to sit through that like astrology aside, but like being able to show up and be like oh, even for him to say, I cannot support you in the way you need it like that must have been so difficult for him, because I imagine he wanted to support you in in many ways. And then for you to just be like, okay, what does that mean like that?

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Lindsay Ford: Oh, I I love that you were able to do that so helpful to know about the Aquarius moon, because that is my moon side. I've never looked.

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Lindsay Ford: the human design piece. I think the more we just know about ourselves and understand about ourselves like the deeper the insights about ourselves, and then the deeper the connection. Because if you can just look at that and say, Okay, cancer moon versus Aquarius moon. There's differences. It. It takes the

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Lindsay Ford: So let's move into like the witchcraft side, because this is something I don't. I don't understand. You sort of like, you know, have the vision of like the witch with the hat and the broom. I have friends. I have met people who sort of identify in more of the like.

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Danie C. Muniz: of all things, well, then, if I'm a God, then I am the creator of all things. So I get to create my world. So if I'm going to make my cup of coffee in the morning, I'm going to infuse this coffee with what I desire. I'm going to use herbs.

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Danie C. Muniz: So if you think about how we're going to, I hate. I hate these terms, but these are terms that make sense. And so we're going to use them.

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Danie C. Muniz: and wanting to manipulate situations. And so it's 1 of the reasons why I do write witchcraft when I, you know, speak when I'm talking, I have it on my own podcast that I went from a Catholic disciple to an eclectic witch. That is part of who I am, because I want people to know that there is another side.

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Danie C. Muniz: that there is an actual, really beautiful, empowering side of witchcraft that is

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Lindsay Ford: So as you're transitioning from

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Lindsay Ford: because witchcraft is

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Lindsay Ford: under the views of the Church, I'm assuming in your church

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah.

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Lindsay Ford: How did you move

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Lindsay Ford: sort of reconcile, reconciling that belief that it was evil.

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah.

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Danie C. Muniz: my.

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Danie C. Muniz: I would say I had the best teachers.

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Danie C. Muniz: the heart, the love that

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Danie C. Muniz: came through in each of their expressions, in how they taught, or the ceremonies that I would go to.

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Danie C. Muniz: just the people who were who I was around.

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Danie C. Muniz: They weren't these evil people. They were actually really good people. And I think that has made it really and really easy transition for me. There was. It was hard at first, st like I had to make the decision, because

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Danie C. Muniz: all of my friendships were so connected to the church, because it's where I spent most of my time, and

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Danie C. Muniz: outside of that, like I kept it really quiet for quite a while.

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Danie C. Muniz: I didn't even tell my clients at the time I was working as like a hypnotherapist, and so I never told my clients that I was

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Danie C. Muniz: practicing witchcraft, or that I was using astrology or tarot cards oracle cards like I wasn't showing any of that. My front facing was still very I'll use the word 3D. It was still very 3D. And

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Danie C. Muniz: There is nothing wrong with what I'm doing, because the people who I was surrounded by and the teachings that I had were so grounded and so practical that it just made common sense to me

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Danie C. Muniz: I didn't care anymore. I didn't care about

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Danie C. Muniz: what other people were going to say, or what other people were going to think, because I knew my truth, and I could stand in that truth

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Danie C. Muniz: against any

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Danie C. Muniz: that people threw at me like I could stand in my own truth and understand, and I think I had, because I was so involved. I have a very good understanding and appreciation of the Church, and what it taught, and what this other side was showing and teaching me, and so I feel like.

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Danie C. Muniz: At that time I felt so

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Danie C. Muniz: and in the remembering of who I was that it was just it was. It was easy.

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially when you talk about like feeling the love

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Lindsay Ford: That are introducing you to these concepts that are sitting with you, that are teaching you, that are are, you know, when you can feel that in your body that, like pure goodness.

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Lindsay Ford: like you could. Just it just lands right? It does feel like truth. You're just like, okay, this was the missing piece, or like

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Lindsay Ford: It's not that you're not skeptical, but it just feels yeah, like, like you remembered this. This.

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah, it. And it truly is like, I truly feel like it was a remembering of

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Danie C. Muniz: who I was and who I came here to be. And I think you know, if we think about from the perspective of our soul, decides to have this current experience. I needed that experience to be able to be the person that I am right now, with the understanding of both the Church and of this other idea of spirituality, of witchcraft, and what that all means. And I think

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Danie C. Muniz: because I've had both of those experiences. Now I can guide people right. I can guide people to their own truth like, I would never say, religion is the only way, or spirituality is the only way. I think it depends on the person, and what's gonna be best for them

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Danie C. Muniz: from a very conscious place, though, just as one of the reasons why

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Danie C. Muniz: I was so drawn to you, Lindsay was. I'm very much about finding your own truth, and not what society tells you, not what the mainstream, whatever the mainstream, is out there is guiding or directing you to, it's being aware of it.

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Danie C. Muniz: and then coming back and saying, Well, what do I think? What do I believe?

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Danie C. Muniz: Does this resonate for me in the same way? And I think if we can start to have more of those conversations, man, our world would shift like no other, where we can like

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Danie C. Muniz: have these open, honest conversations about our beliefs about what we think, and still be curious like not be rock solid like. I'm very curious when a religious person tells me something I'm like. Let me see how that fits for me.

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Danie C. Muniz: I'm not going to fully just accept it. But let me see how it resonates with what I believe. Can I open my perspective to see this in a different way?

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Danie C. Muniz: Not just completely rejected? I think that's a big problem we have in our world right now is that people just reject, because no, this is my belief, and this is what like witchcraft is evil. And if you can open up your perspective and say, How could it not be evil? How could it actually be good? You could see something different, not to say that you have to accept it fully, or you have to now be, you know, start practicing witchcraft.

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Danie C. Muniz: However.

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Danie C. Muniz: you could understand it in a different way, and if it does resonate, then by all means

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, I, 100% agree with you with just like.

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Lindsay Ford: the world would be so

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Lindsay Ford: a much better place if we could have these nuanced discussions. If we could get curious if we could try to understand. We have been conditioned to.

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Lindsay Ford: you know, if this doesn't fit within this script or within this framework, then reject it. And at the same time so many people are, you know, feeling like they're meant for something more, that there's more out there for them, and it doesn't. Their lives or the way they're living doesn't fit on one script. They know there's missing pieces.

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Lindsay Ford: and in order to find those missing pieces. You have to be able to.

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Lindsay Ford: You know, you don't have to throw out religion to adopt witchcraft. It's like, you're like, okay. This piece works for me. This piece works for me, this, and you can just pull from a bunch of different areas. And you know, piece it together for yourself, because it might be completely different for one person versus another person, and that is the beauty of this life. We get to all create our own path. And

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Lindsay Ford: but we can't get there unless we're.

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Lindsay Ford: you know, going back to that conversation you had, you know, in your relationship of just like being uncomfortable sitting in that discomfort like having these really honest dialogues and like, how can we pull this apart? And how can we understand things better and put our curiosity hats on and sit with it. And just

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Lindsay Ford: yeah, just like.

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Lindsay Ford: get little bits of

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah.

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Lindsay Ford: I think that is a beautiful place to leave off.

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Lindsay Ford: How can people find you if they want to connect with you, Danny?

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Danie C. Muniz: Yeah. So I have a podcast called the cosmic mystic podcast where we have conversations just like this very similar. I also talk a lot about astrology on those podcasts. So if you want to learn more about astrology and how to work

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Danie C. Muniz: with astrology, because I am not somebody. That is, it's Mercury retrograde. And we all need to go hide under a rock. I'm not that person. I'm somebody who's like, Okay, what is it bringing forward for us to learn about ourselves. How can we work with this energy? How can we empower ourselves to direct the energy of mercury retrograde? And so, if you want more empowerment and optimism in astrology.

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Danie C. Muniz: Then definitely come on over. You can go to thepeaceteacher.com. You can find everything there as far as the podcast and just learn more about me and the work that I get to do, that I'm blessed to do in this world and on this path. And I'm just so honored and grateful for this opportunity, Lindsay, to speak with you, to have this conversation.

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Danie C. Muniz: I agree that we need to have more conversations like this, and just showing people that there are other ways of being and thinking and practicing, and pick what fits for you, and go forward with it.

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Lindsay Ford: I I don't even want to close out after that you just you just summed it up. So that's perfect.

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Lindsay Ford: Thank you so much for being here. And I mean, who doesn't want a little dose of empowerment. So definitely, go check out, Danny. And

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Lindsay Ford: yeah, thank you so much. I've really really appreciated this conversation.

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Danie C. Muniz: Me too.