Episode 63 - Vaughan Sauverain: The Link Between Pain, Dis-ease and Toxins

Is there a link between toxins and chronic pain? Autoimmune issues? Cancer? Heart issues?

The more I learn about health, the more I believe that the majority of our health issues comes back to toxin overload – our body is great a detoxing, BUT it can’t always handle everything we throw at it.

Now, I’m not an expert, which is why I’m chatting with Vaughan Sauverain all about detox.

I’ve personally done his 6 week transformational detox program and would recommend it to anyone who’s not quite feeling right in their body.

It’s like hitting the reset button, doing a spring cleaning in your body, and setting a solid foundation to carry you forward.

If you’ve been curious about detoxes, this episode is a must-listen.

More about Vaughan Sauverain👇

Vaughan Sauverain is a visionary leader + founder of Aligned Sovereignty. His own journey through significant health challenges and physical injuries fuelled his determination to take charge of his well-being and discover the keys to lasting health and vitality.

Vaughan has since worked with the world’s top mentors, healers, and practitioners, dedicating himself to unlocking human potential through foundational health practices and principles. Using a unique blend of modalities Vaughan's work is dedicated to guiding individuals back to a state of balance, vitality, and equilibrium, “in”powering them to reclaim their sovereignty and live in alignment with their highest potential.

Connect with Vaughan & Learn more about detox👇

Website: https://www.alignedsovereignty.com/

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Transcript

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Lindsay Ford: All right. We are talking detox today. Welcome to the podcast Vaughn

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vaughan sauverain: Thanks, Lindsay. I'm excited to be here and and get into this conversation with you.

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Lindsay Ford: Well, I'm really excited, too, because I did your detox program back in the fall, and it really shifted my relationship with food in a massive way. And so I'm really excited to get into this conversation. I feel like the more I learn about health, the more I realize how like everything comes back to having a healthy foundation in our bodies, and I know detoxing is a part of that.

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Lindsay Ford: You have a really interesting story, one where your health journey started.

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Lindsay Ford: around chronic pain, chronic health issues. And you have landed in the detox sphere. And you're now like an expert in that sphere. So why don't you walk us through

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Lindsay Ford: what that journey was like? Because, you know, chronic pain

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Lindsay Ford: and chronic health issues. It's not always linked to detox. So why don't you just walk us through that? That story

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vaughan sauverain: Yeah, for sure. Thanks.

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vaughan sauverain: So to give a little bit of background. I

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vaughan sauverain: you know, from when I was younger I've always been very healthy and fit primarily, and

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vaughan sauverain: what I thought was healthy and fit was probably not so healthy and fit now that I really fundamentally know what healthy and fit, feels and know, and have studied that now. So yeah, being an athlete from when I was younger then joining the military. When I got a little bit older. You know I joined quite late. I joined when I was about 27,

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vaughan sauverain: and sustained a few injuries. When I was going through a lot of the special forces, reinforcement cycle training mechanisms. And so when I,

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vaughan sauverain: when I decided to get out of the military, I had severe depression, chronic pain and a lot of chronic health issues that were taking place like adrenal fatigue and and some other aspects. And so what I did was I

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vaughan sauverain: went through the normal medical system, and was just heavily on painkillers and other anti-inflammatory medicines as well.

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vaughan sauverain: and also seeing chiropractors and physios, and doing all the normal things that we get supported with mostly in, I guess, conventional methods.

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vaughan sauverain: But nothing was really fixing me, nothing was really helping me get away from chronic pain and illness, and also wasn't really helping at all with the the aspects of really bad anxiety as well as the chronic depression in which I was experiencing. So

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vaughan sauverain: with that I was also heavily self medicating with drugs and alcohol, which obviously is just not benefiting anyone, especially my body, and it led me down a

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vaughan sauverain: a fairly extensive path. And I just began to resource different teachers. Who

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vaughan sauverain: then I ended up studying from, and in that same process began to fundamentally

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vaughan sauverain: find how my body actually works, especially when we go through different detoxification processes and how the the mind and Body

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vaughan sauverain: Association actually works as well. So

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vaughan sauverain: as I went down this path of of learning about how it worked for my body, as well as you know how I began to heal myself.

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vaughan sauverain: I began to then wanted to get into the studying and and really go deeper again. So I can begin to share the journey with other people as well as you know, be supportive, and being of service to support them in their healing process as well. So that's

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vaughan sauverain: pretty much how I came about it. To be honest, and and it's it's been.

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vaughan sauverain: It's been a hard journey, but it's also been one of the most empowering and most beneficial journeys I've I've been on so far, for sure.

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Lindsay Ford: I really resonate with what you said. You know you thought you were healthy and fit before, but looking back and don't knowing what you know now.

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Lindsay Ford: Maybe that wasn't the case, and I can look back at my own health journey. And you know, when I was in my teens and twenties. Well, right from like I did competitive gymnastics as a kid. So I was taught to just like push myself full on. You know, if you break a bone. You tape it up, and you keep going like, just push, push. And that was the mentality I grew up with. And so I feel like I was like super fit in my like well, especially my teens twenties all through.

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Lindsay Ford: But I was having to take painkillers every every day before workout, so I'd be working out 5 days a week, but I'd be on an advil because I would. I had exercise headaches or exertion headaches, so if I pushed myself too far, I would get a headache, and basically, like everything from cutting the grass to like a spin class to playing a game of soccer would give me a headache. So basically, I was, you know, taking painkillers every day in order to be healthy, quote unquote.

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Lindsay Ford: And and I've had to really rewire what it is to push myself

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Lindsay Ford: like I don't know. I like. I grew up very competitive with myself, and I've really had to untrain myself not to push myself to the limit. So I really like.

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Lindsay Ford: yeah, that that you know that view of what we have of health and being able to push our bodies.

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Lindsay Ford: maybe isn't quite so good for our bodies as we think it is.

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vaughan sauverain: For sure it it's such a you know. I I grew up exactly the same.

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vaughan sauverain: you know. Got to train harder. You got to push harder, you got to compete faster. You know all these, all these I guess, pressures that we put ourselves, but also from, you know, from parents and society and friends as well, and especially as you, you know, when we're competing, it's like, Oh, I really want to do really well. So I need to do more and more and more. But you know

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vaughan sauverain: the the beautiful thing I got to to really sit with and learn is more is not

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vaughan sauverain: always better and

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vaughan sauverain: sometimes less, is actually more especially when we listen, and we go internally and listen to what our body's actually telling us. So we can get the most out of it, because I think one of the big parts in all of it is we are limitless in our approach. It's a matter of realistically tapping into that

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vaughan sauverain: and breaking away from the limiting beliefs and structures that we've imposed on ourselves. We've made choices and beliefs that have

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vaughan sauverain: may probably made us feel safe, or made us feel like we that we are doing enough, or however that looks. But the unfortunate thing is those some of those old mechanisms just aren't true. And they've actually created limitation. And that's what stopped us from reaching our true potential. And

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vaughan sauverain: that's the beautiful thing that I got to dive into essentially was

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vaughan sauverain: really understanding the the deep connection between the mental emotional aspects and how that then translates into the into the body as well, and and how that

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vaughan sauverain: how it corresponds with each other to

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vaughan sauverain: realistically get into, to break it down so we can be free again, and healthy

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, those limiting beliefs are really interesting to dive into, because, you know, on one hand, you know that view to be competitive and always push yourself. It's so good. But then one of the most interesting limiting beliefs that I encountered, and I've talked to other people about who experienced different pain and chronic pain and chronic health issues is that that pain, that health issue becomes part of your identity.

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Lindsay Ford: and you get some sort of twisted, messed up strength of having that as part of your identity. Did that ever happen to you like, did you have those types of beliefs where you're just like, okay, this injury, this.

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Lindsay Ford: you know, limitation.

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Lindsay Ford: It somehow

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Lindsay Ford: strengthens me. And for me it was like, I. I work harder than everyone else. People don't know what I'm going through. So it's kind of like this, you know. Excuse sometimes like, did you encounter any of that in your own personal experience?

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vaughan sauverain: Yeah, absolutely.

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vaughan sauverain: The implications that can come from that are just very interesting, because it can be a double-edged sword. It can really lead us to liberation, but it also can

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vaughan sauverain: create more destruction in its essence as well. So yeah, for sure, there's definitely been them along the way that have inspired me and empowered me, but then also, then have limited me and and created more harm

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vaughan sauverain: than than actual good. And I think

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vaughan sauverain: when we really break it down.

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vaughan sauverain: It's fundamentally understanding the depth of

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vaughan sauverain: how we're speaking about. You know those injuries and

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vaughan sauverain: really getting to the place of

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vaughan sauverain: they're there to give us a lesson more so than anything to teach us something that we're not probably seen in the greater scheme of things.

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vaughan sauverain: Generally speaking, if it is an injury. It's about slowing down and and really

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vaughan sauverain: processing what is coming through for us. It's there's always the body's always giving us a biofeedback to to listen to and to learn from. So

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vaughan sauverain: yeah.

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, I feel like, you know, if we ignore all the subtle signs our body is giving us, like, you know, we're feeling tired, but you know, we need to get a lot of work done or something like that, and we're just pushing through like our body just gets louder and louder and louder, until we end up with a sickness or an injury, and we're forced to like come to an abrupt halt and reevaluate things. So I feel like. The more we can tune into our body.

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Lindsay Ford: the better we can the better we are, and then we can sort of mitigate all of the or most of the, you know, quote unquote catastrophic things that might might happen as a result of our body, just trying to get our attention

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vaughan sauverain: For sure.

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Lindsay Ford: Of the one of the things that happened at the beginning of the Detox program with you. I did your 6 week transformational detox, and the 1st week is sort of like a gentle phase in where you're just eliminating things. And then you go 4 weeks like really restrictive diet. You're on supplements. You're like detoxing Hardcore, and then you have like a phase out. In that 1st week

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Lindsay Ford: I went and bought cookies.

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Lindsay Ford: and I had like a little meltdown. I was used to just grabbing cookies. I love cookies, but probably like I don't even know if we were like 1, 2, 3 days into this, and we're supposed to be eliminating all this stuff, and I go to the grocery store.

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Lindsay Ford: and I buy a thing of cookies, and I put it on the seat next to me as I'm driving across town, and I look down. I'm like I'm pretty sure I've just eaten like 8 large cookies, like I was just like, what am I doing?

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Lindsay Ford: And then and I'm bringing this up because I feel like that. The foundation for the rest of my detox program.

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Lindsay Ford: I reached out to you, and we had a conversation, and I don't remember the specifics of the conversation. But you know I had this.

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Lindsay Ford: You know, I had a really strong resistance to any diet. I can do it with my kids. I can sort of slowly phase things out. But going super restrictive. I have a lot of resistance because I watched my mom Yo-yo diet all her life and swore I would never do anything like that. So I really saw this as like restrictive.

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Lindsay Ford: It was still something I wanted to do. But the conversation we had around like the cookies, and what I was doing it really came back to honoring my body.

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Lindsay Ford: And this idea of self-worth, and that's probably the one of the biggest things that landed with me through the Detox program, because then, when we were on the super restrictive diet, it was actually very easy for me to stick to

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Lindsay Ford: because it just came back to this question of like, Is my body worth honoring? Is, am I coming at this from a place of self-worth, or am I trying to sabotage and

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Lindsay Ford: it. It was really a beautiful reframe that really really

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Lindsay Ford: helped. And I want to just say, like, you know, having access to you during that particular program. And you know, there's different levels where you can do the program without getting access to you. But that personal like touch in, I wouldn't have been able to work through that, or have as deep as an impact. Had I not been able to have those conversations with you and work through

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Lindsay Ford: work through that those psychological things because it wasn't like, I couldn't have cookies, because I 100 could

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Lindsay Ford: But yeah, that what made you?

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Lindsay Ford: I guess in your experience you've been doing detox for a while, working with people, one on one and in group programs.

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Lindsay Ford: What's the biggest thing that people struggle with in terms of getting through the Detox program and committing to it

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vaughan sauverain: Yeah, it's exactly what you shared. It's those sabotage patterns and just old habits that we're so heavily ingrained in.

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vaughan sauverain: And we just do them unconsciously. And we don't realize why we're doing them. And the impact on how that realistically looks for us, or how that is for us is

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vaughan sauverain: when we do things from a place of unconscious

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vaughan sauverain: habits. It's it's really coming from deep, seated emotional stuff that we primarily haven't really worked with or haven't really worked through, but we may have an awareness around it.

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vaughan sauverain: It can also come through from trauma or trigger responses as well, so

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vaughan sauverain: that those aspects of inadequacy or so, or unworthiness, they they definitely show up, especially when we. We made a choice

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vaughan sauverain: to honor a process, and we will then go into that sabotage pattern, or that trauma response, we may get triggered from something that we that's in our immediate environment and that could be bringing up some past memories or feelings or emotions from the past, and we, as we begin to really see it for what it is, we generally will go to things that

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vaughan sauverain: that are so ingrained in us, especially for food. Food is a big one for most people.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, whether it's getting fast foods or getting really sweet foods or processed foods. They're they're pretty primarily, they're designed to to support our our trigger responses essentially to help reinter. Sorry to help continue with them.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, processed foods themselves have got a lot of different emulsifiers and and other additives in there that help us to create comfort, their comfort foods essentially, and that comfort is an emotional trigger that we haven't worked through, that we we still need to, I guess.

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vaughan sauverain: unlock for ourselves, so we can break free of it.

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vaughan sauverain: And typically, that's you know. What you shared is what happens with most people on the detox. We.

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vaughan sauverain: or even not just on the detox. It's in everyday life. It's like we, we make a choice. And we say, Yes, I'm going to do this thing.

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vaughan sauverain: And all of a sudden I'm getting phone calls from friends, and I'm like constantly putting up, putting up, putting off more and more and more, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, Oh, I didn't get it done. It's not a big deal, or I'll use that as a framework, or that's not a big deal. It doesn't really matter that much. And this

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vaughan sauverain: these mechanisms that we're so used to saying to ourselves when

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vaughan sauverain: we're actually breaking our own trust. Essentially, we're breaking, and we are we are.

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vaughan sauverain: What's the word. The word is like reemphasizing the fact that we have. We've said that we're going to do it, but we're now not doing it. So we're breaking our own trust, and that's what keeps us in the same patterns and habits. And the beautiful thing you know with as you were coming through Lindsay was the fact that

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vaughan sauverain: you reached out, and you had that access to, and also the courage to go. Hey, this has come up for me, and I I really am here because I want to make change, and

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vaughan sauverain: you know it takes courage and a lot of you know self awareness to say I'm I'm done with doing that. Now I really want to make change in my life. And

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vaughan sauverain: so the beautiful thing is with that with the transformational detox, the 6 week transformational detox is I get to support people in breaking down and dissolving those limiting beliefs and and constructs that aren't supporting. You know, they're not really supporting us. They're just keeping us safe.

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vaughan sauverain: From a from a protective mechanism that isn't actually true. And so

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vaughan sauverain: yeah, that's primary. They're primarily the ones that most people will come come up with is like, why they can't finish the detox or why they can. It's okay. It's only just one bit of chocolate, or it's whatever that that thing is. And

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vaughan sauverain: when we really come back to, are we truly loving ourselves? Am I truly loving myself to say yes to this thing that I know I need to say no to, because I've got all this other stuff that I need to finish.

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vaughan sauverain: You know, that's a that's another big one. We'll create these these scenarios where I'll just say yes to it, because it feels right. But

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vaughan sauverain: it's not actually feeling right, because I know I've got all this other work to get done. And so I'm prolonging the

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vaughan sauverain: the aspects of getting that done. And it's the same with food. It's the same with the choices we're making in our daily life.

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vaughan sauverain: You know how committed we are, and it comes back down to

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vaughan sauverain: a deep sense of discipline, and

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vaughan sauverain: a lot of people will put the word discipline with being serious. But discipline can also be fun.

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vaughan sauverain: And it's 1 thing I do my best to

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vaughan sauverain: really incorporating. My life is to have fun, even if it is serious, so to speak.

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vaughan sauverain: you know I'm I'm a fun. I'm a fun, loving kind of guy I. But at the same time I know there's like it takes. You know, there's a little bit of seriousness, and I think that's where we get caught with these these different terminologies of like, okay, discipline means I can't have fun.

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vaughan sauverain: and that doesn't really feel good to me. But it's like no discipline can be fun.

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vaughan sauverain: How can we make it more fun and enjoyable? And I think, you know, when we've got someone that can support us in that process to help us see and dissolve those those issues. It's a it's a powerful part of the process.

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Lindsay Ford: Well, yeah, because not everyone in your immediate life will support you going through a program like this or making changes. And

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Lindsay Ford: it unless you're coming at it, I believe, with like a strong sense of why, a strong sense of purpose, a strong sense of self-worth. It's going to be hard to. I guess not. Cave into the pressures of

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Lindsay Ford: You know the external people around you, the external world, or even just like you, have to plan ahead when you're on a detox like that, because you can't usually just grab food from a restaurant, at least in North America. It's really, really.

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Lindsay Ford: you know, not not great options a lot of the time, unless you know specifically where you where you're going. But even like I can think of, you know, I'm doing the Detox program. My dad's just like, Do you want a bowl of chips? And I'm like, What like, what are you doing? And I was even like trying to like. I was dating throughout that I was going on 1st dates. And I remember it just being like, Okay, I can't go to a restaurant. I can't consume any food out. I can't consume any beverages out other than tea. I don't want to drink even the tap water that they serve at restaurants.

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Lindsay Ford: and and that that was really fun to navigate, too, because, you know, there was one guy that like he couldn't, he couldn't handle it. He was just like, I'm out. And I'm like, Okay, cool. I'm like we could go for a walk. We could do something. But it was just like.

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Lindsay Ford: it's really interesting, you know, when you are committed to making a change for yourself, what comes up in the people around you and the people that even are the closest to you sometimes

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Lindsay Ford: don't always have your back in terms of supporting changes. So yeah, having someone that you can like someone like you to navigate through that process, and and to talk through what's coming up. Because it is, I would say the majority of it is emotional. It's not necessarily that you can't prep the food. Or do you know the physical stuff? It's like the mental strength and emotional stuff that you have to release in order to be able to follow through on something like that

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vaughan sauverain: For sure.

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vaughan sauverain: Look when we get into the term. Detox is very overused, you know, with detoxing, we have a 24 h biological detoxification system within this incredible vessel that we walk around in.

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vaughan sauverain: And we're we're detoxing from a multitude of things. We're detoxing from stresses in our environment. So you know whether it's chemical stress that we're getting.

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vaughan sauverain: You know, thermal stress, whether it's emf stress, whether it's you know,

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vaughan sauverain: internal stress, you know, from a from an alchemical perspective, or even, you know.

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vaughan sauverain: the other ones are just. Most of them are environmental stresses, because it's like what we're eating, what we're drinking, what we're breathing right? And and even to that degree, what we're absorbing through our epidermis, our biggest organ of our body, which is our skin

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vaughan sauverain: and the body can only process so much at one time. And so if we're taking lots of medication.

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vaughan sauverain: it can't. The amount of heavy metals and other other ingredients that are in there that you know primarily are coming from

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vaughan sauverain: Pharmaceuticals. Thank you. The body can assimilate it for sure. But over time, if we're continually taking them, and we're not helping the the strain or the stress on our body to get rid of. And if any one of the 5 processes of assimilation or elimination which is our detoxification pathways, if they're not open, then it's going to create stagnation, especially with a lot of heavy metals.

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vaughan sauverain: And so that's primarily what we're detoxing is, we're just helping open those pathways so the body can actually get rid of and release

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vaughan sauverain: those toxins. And so the body can process a lot of the energy and information that we're taking on, and that again, that comes from subtle energies like Emfs and other.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, very subtle energy systems that we that we're not really attuned to that we don't technically feel from a sense gate perspective. And then also, you know, a lot of the other toxins like glyphosates and and sorry, you know, through roundup that are sprayed on foods. So the body just has to.

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vaughan sauverain: When it's backed up. It just can't get this. You can't get rid of the stress and the strain that's impacting us. And that's primarily what then leads us into dis-ease, so to speak, that's creating dis-ease. And so that's where we get colds and flus, and there's nothing wrong with colds and flus. It's your body just responding and saying, Hey, I'm backed up right now. I need to get rid of this stress or this strain, so to speak, because it's impacting me too much.

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vaughan sauverain: So yeah, you know, we can even get into the micro plastics conversation, you know a lot of

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vaughan sauverain: you know, giving ourselves that these little resets to. So it can actually optimize itself. And you know.

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vaughan sauverain: for us to realistically come back to to feeling. What it feels like. To be healthy again is is that's what we're detoxing for. And that's why we're detoxing essentially

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Lindsay Ford: One of the interesting dots that are connecting in my brain over the last. I don't even know, year or 2, as I'm getting further and further into health. Understanding your detox program, I did a whole like perimenopause hormone program last year

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Lindsay Ford: You know, I look at my kids and some of the symptoms that they've experienced. My daughter used to break out in like a rash twice a year

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Lindsay Ford: and put on antibiotics because it was painful, and I didn't know what to do, and I was trying all the things, and it took me 3 years to figure it out that it was just like she was having an allergic reaction. Essentially, she would get a bunch of mosquito bites, and then her body would go into like overdrive, or like a over histamine response or something, and just like break out. And it was working through with a naturopath doing some basic gut reset. And then she'd never had that issue again.

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Lindsay Ford: then with my son, we've he's been like stuffed up congested since he's a baby, and we've been trying to sort that out and like eliminating like wheat and dairy and all of the things.

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Lindsay Ford: And I'm like, I don't think it's any one particular food. I think it's just his system gets overloaded at times. And so now I'm coming at it with this idea of like, okay, how can we just not overload his system.

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Lindsay Ford: in my head of just like we've been just looking at this all wrong. We've been looking. We've so trained in this like medical model of like, Okay, diagnose symptom, find, you know

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Lindsay Ford: like you said this like we just need to detox all the things our system's getting overloaded, and it's presenting in these weird like, it doesn't present consistently from person to person. It could be a cold. It could be a flu in my son's case. Just congestion in my daughter's case. Maybe it was like mosquito bites too much. Too many mosquito bites all at once.

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vaughan sauverain: For sure. So we're we're a whole integrated unit, right? And just like we've got a thumbprint.

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vaughan sauverain: Everyone's thumbprints completely individual. It's exactly the same for our gut and our gut microbiome is completely different. So even with twins, they're going to have 2 different gut microbiomes essentially. And and they're going to be different to the mothers as well as the fathers. And so

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vaughan sauverain: the importance of realistically knowing what works for your son, to what works for your daughter is obviously going to be a little bit different, right? So

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vaughan sauverain: the you know this, we can get into the the aspects of like, say, Dr. Bruce Bruce Lipton's work, where he gets into epigenetics, which means epi meaning higher above than the genetic makeup itself, and so

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vaughan sauverain: do we take on genetics from our parents. Of course we do. Do we need to be limited by those genetics? No, we can actually change the genetic makeup. And

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vaughan sauverain: as well as what we're breathing in and how we're breathing, how our physiology sits and how it's, you know, it's operating is going to change dynamically between 2 people and even 3 or 4 to 10 people. Right? It's always going to change. And so how we take on stress or strain, so to speak.

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vaughan sauverain: is actually quite interesting, because what I might find

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vaughan sauverain: and it's the same with our food. If you might, you might find something that doesn't really

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vaughan sauverain: affect you at all, but it might create inflammation in my body, or it might trigger some response that it just doesn't feel right in my body, and I might get some brain fog, or I might get a breakout in in some histamine aspects where my skin now breaks out.

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vaughan sauverain: where is it working for my daughter? And where is it not working for my son? And then where is it working for my son that's going to then support him in his health.

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vaughan sauverain: And then, seeing how you know, resetting the gut for your daughter has really optimally, optimally changed. How she's, you know, not breaking out in these histamine aspects with, you know, mosquito bites and so forth.

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vaughan sauverain: really we, the brain sorry. The second brain that we have is our gut, and it all starts in our gut. You know, we break down food, which is energy and information and vibration. We break that down. We take that energy and information on through the cells. The cells filter it all through.

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vaughan sauverain: and if the cells are, you know, primarily, if they're overloaded with too many toxins. They can't filter the information that's coming through properly, and so we'll get a splitting. And now we've got 2 toxic cells as opposed to

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vaughan sauverain: and as we. As we begin to, then take on more energy and information, the body just becomes overloaded. And so this gets into like a bit of a conversation in around germ theory and terrain theory

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vaughan sauverain: allopathy is great. It's absolutely amazing for acute care. It's by far one of the best methods, because, you know, you injure yourself severely acute. We go to the hospital. We have to have surgery, and they've got all this beautiful medication that sedates us so they can actually do the surgery properly.

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vaughan sauverain: whereas terrain theory is realistically for chronic health issues.

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vaughan sauverain: And that is, we get in and clean the terrain out. So we're hitting and getting into the symptomatic aspects into the the deep. The deep chronic aspects of what's taking place from a

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vaughan sauverain: And most chronic issues, things like autoimmune issues, cancers, heart diseases. They all kind of come under the umbrella of autoimmune, anyway. But

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vaughan sauverain: all of these really chronic issues. They've taken roughly 12 to 15 years to proliferate for a diagnosis.

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vaughan sauverain: And so we've been living with these, you know, comorbidities for a period of time, and we don't even realize it until they've come so chronic that now they've proliferated into

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vaughan sauverain: really cleaning out the terrain. And that's where doing these deeper detoxes is really important, whereas with acute care, germ theory aspects is well, we can just take more medication just to fix the issues. You know we'll take, you know we get a headache, and we'll take aspirin, or we'll take a painkiller, or

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vaughan sauverain: we're actually contributing to these issues more and more and more, and the body adapts really, really, quickly. So the more painkillers we have, the more stronger ones we need to take. And so what we're doing is we're overloading the system more and more so that the receptor sites in our gut and our microbiome are now not being able to use the information properly. And that's creating chronic stress which creates dysbiosis. And over time that generates and creates chronic illness. So

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vaughan sauverain: yeah, what you shared in regards to the difference. You know with what how you worked with your daughter and really rebuilt her gut. That's the that's realistically going through the terrain terrain theory model. It's like, clean and clear it all out. So the gut microbiome can, you know, reorganize itself. And especially for kids. It's really important.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, making sure that we are coming back to 1st and foremost, for health is, you know, whole clean foods. And then, you know, if it is getting to a stage where it is chronic, then.

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vaughan sauverain: looking towards more alternative aspects, but making sure that we have the foundation there 1st and foremost. So then, when we are taking medication, we're coming back to a really strong baseline that the body can actually regulate itself with. And this gets into a lot of aspects in regards to functional health, in its essence

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Lindsay Ford: Well, I love the word terrain, because I feel like I just get a visual there with just like you're essentially cleaning out your terrain. It's like a spring cleaning. It's like.

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vaughan sauverain: That's it.

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vaughan sauverain: We just spring clean.

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Lindsay Ford: Can you do? I guess the next question I have is really related to supplements or no supplements. Can you detox without supplements, because there's so many things on the market when it comes to like detoxing and cleansing. And one of the things I really struggle with is with my kids in particular, and their dad's really resistant to supplements.

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vaughan sauverain: Yeah, that that's a great question. Because it does. It depends on what we are detoxing from.

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vaughan sauverain: Yes, primarily, we can, for sure, like a lot of herbs out there are really amazing at helping the detoxification pathways. And and

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vaughan sauverain: essentially, you know, looking looking at like things like Chlorella and Cilantros, those ones that that help chelate a lot of, or chelate a lot of heavy metals out of our system. They're really really powerful.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, coming back to a whole food diet is really, you know, whole food nutrient, dense diets really important.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, I do cover a lot of this in in my detoxing programs and the importance of understanding why it's important to get away from glyphosate or sprayed foods and getting back to whole whole food organic foods. Because we're taking on the hormonal structure of those plants, herbs, and animals and helping regenerate our hormonal structure from at the cellular level. So that's why, you know, I emphasize

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vaughan sauverain: eating whole foods first, st but also making sure that we are getting really good, clean, organic foods. But yes, we can, absolutely. We can detox. It's a matter of open up the detoxification pathways, you know, looking at our breath, the breathing aspects so respiration. You know how we're how we're passing through our stooling is, you know, defecation that's going to give us a biofeedback of

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vaughan sauverain: If we are, you know, when we are looking at the supplementing, it's like, okay is in my, because if I'm taking, let's just say like a vitamin. B, 6.

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vaughan sauverain: And I'm getting all this vitamin B 12 into my system. I'm going to create deficiency in another area.

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vaughan sauverain: So to get back to that question of, you know, supplementing, compared to not supplementing it's realistically understanding.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, from a foundational perspective. 1st and foremost, where are we getting our energy information from? And and and the vibration in which is coming into our body.

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, that's really interesting, like, one of the things I learned when I was in your program. What you just said is like, it never occurred to me really to question the sources of where the supplements are coming from. You're just kind of recommended supplements, and

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Lindsay Ford: you know you trust what your naturopath tells you, or or if you're just at the store, you're just asking the clerk at the store like, okay, there's all these collagens. What what's the difference that's so overwhelming. There's so many to choose from. So I want to come back to something you said at the beginning of this interview is when you were going through your process, you went out, and you learned from really good teachers. How do you know

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vaughan sauverain: Of course I still make mistakes, just like everyone we all do. But when I sat with it, I was like, Okay.

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vaughan sauverain: went through a bit of a protocol that I I go through, and that was 1st and foremost is this is this teacher. Are they fit and healthy?

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vaughan sauverain: And what is? What do I? Just what do I ascribe to fit and healthy? 1st and foremost? And are they living

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vaughan sauverain: And the beautiful thing that I

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vaughan sauverain: but you know fundamentally came back to was.

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vaughan sauverain: how do they look without a shirt?

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vaughan sauverain: And that's not, you know, that it can be that can be deceiving. You know one of my teachers that I've studied through extensively with was Paul Check, and he's, you know, a very big advocate, for

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vaughan sauverain: you know, whole food 1st and foremost, and but also how he moves and how he trains, and you know his lifestyle in which he's built. And so that's where I got into. Okay. You know his lifestyle. He preaches what he's sharing, and sure he's made mistakes along the way, just like we all do.

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vaughan sauverain: But he's really living his, his, you know, his expression of his truth.

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vaughan sauverain: and then my other. You know, my teacher, that I still study through and still learn from these days is Jan Carton on the Gold Coast here in Australia, and

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vaughan sauverain: she goes by the name of Kiki. And she's amazing. But you know again. Kiki has always been fit and healthy, and, you know, was so resourceful with what she shared, that, you know, when I dug into it it was exactly the same thing as what I saw from Paul. You know, my other teachers that I've studied through, you know, with Qigong and meditation. They were all.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, my primary, primary, primary, primary one mark he

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vaughan sauverain: that's what I really realistically came back to is, what are they saying? And are they actioning, you know.

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vaughan sauverain: through their embodiment, and majority of it was always a yes, and then I sat with the intuitive aspect. And and that was how I came about studying from these teachers. It's like, you know, when I went to Peru I researched who I wanted to go and learn from when I was in Peru, and and went and worked with different shamans and studied through them. So it just

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vaughan sauverain: again it it comes down to realistically the the inquisitive nature of of ourselves. And

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vaughan sauverain: asking that deep question is, are they really, truly embodying what they're preaching, and

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vaughan sauverain: that is always been one that I've always come back to. And there's been amazing teachers that I

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vaughan sauverain: and then it was just a massive red flag I was just like, Oh, I can't learn from this person, you know. I had a I had a a

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vaughan sauverain: when I use. I had a psychologist coach. I guess that I was learning through and and working with a little bit.

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vaughan sauverain: And I was in a men's group when we're going through learning from this particular person, and there is a lot of

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vaughan sauverain: a lot of deflection and a lot of projection and a lot of things that weren't that that person was just not embodying at all. And so for me.

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vaughan sauverain: I had to cut that away. And so yeah, it just when I really sit with

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vaughan sauverain: with that it just comes back to that, those key pieces. And you know.

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vaughan sauverain: what are they saying, and the language in which they're using is really important, because anyone could be a wordsmith

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vaughan sauverain: and sell and sell and sell and and use the right terminologies and the right words.

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vaughan sauverain: But are they truly embodying? And are they? You know they lying 1st and foremost, because that's what took place in that particular environment that I was in. And so that's where I backed off. And I came back to my own studies and and came back to my own teachers again, and

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, the honesty for me is really important. Because I think.

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Lindsay Ford: yeah, you can say you can say anything, really. And you know, there's a lot of what we want to hear. We want to hear that, like our health issues are really easy to fix, and in some truth they are but a lot of teachers, at least the good ones I found

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Lindsay Ford: really say, like, it's going to take work. It's going to take, you know, effort to change and shift, and it's worth the work. And the work isn't like hard and complicated. But there's going to be stuff that comes up that it's going to be like, not easy to sit through at times. The one other thing I would add

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Lindsay Ford: with the teachers in terms of finding good teachers is someone who really tries to empower you as a student and not rely on them as the expert. And you know their go to person like you don't want to be dependent on anyone else. So I feel like in my experience, the really good teachers are ones that will empower you as a person to make the shifts that you need to shift.

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Lindsay Ford: Why don't you, before we wrap up? Why don't you share a little bit about your programs? We talked about the 6 week program. I know you have a 10 week or 10 week, 10 day Detox protocol as well like, why don't you just briefly share the different offerings you have, and where people can find you

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vaughan sauverain: Sure. Thanks. And yeah, I want to concur with what you just shared. It's, you know, a teacher should be.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, helping you empower yourself. And and it's a key piece for sure.

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vaughan sauverain: Yeah. So obviously, the 10 the sorry you really have me saying 10 week.

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vaughan sauverain: The the Td. 6 or the 6 Week Transformational Detox. I like to call it Td. 6, because it sounds fun.

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vaughan sauverain: that's it's A. It's the 1st one that I came out with in the group setting, and it's a really powerful one

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vaughan sauverain: since you since you did it, there's been so many there's been new iterations, and how now, how the course gets run now is completely different. I actually just do a coaching call now. And people can watch through the videos which I feel is me stepping into my. I guess my zone of genius, so to speak, because it allows me to really help people dissolve.

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vaughan sauverain: and you know sometimes it can be a little bit rough in regards to what I reflect back or mirror for people, but that's just the beautiful part of it. And you know it's also same same I get to. It gets mirrored for me as well. So what I need to work through when stuff comes up to

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vaughan sauverain: so there's Td, Td 6, 6 week course. It is transformational in its essence when people really go all in. And there's just been so many profound changes in people that

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vaughan sauverain: the responses have been really amazing, and I feel very grateful that this course has come through me. I don't believe it's my course I don't call anything mine. I do my best to stay away from using those terms, because it's just

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vaughan sauverain: all the abroad a bunch of the modalities have kind of come through me to then share, and it's been built out in such a beautiful progressive way. And now I have

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vaughan sauverain: donor that supports getting a lot more of the stuff that I don't like to do. She's been doing such an amazing job, especially with the new. The new course, which is the 10 day Transformational Detox, or Td. 3, as I like to call it, because it's a

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vaughan sauverain: even though it's 10 days. The bulk of it's 10 days. It's a 6 day. Lead in a 10 day reset, and then a 5 day lead out. And so it's 21 days in its totality.

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vaughan sauverain: and it's beautiful. It's got a lot of education in it. It's self-guided. But I, the videos, are all

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vaughan sauverain: me explaining what needs to take place over the 10 days or sorry over the 21 days.

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vaughan sauverain: and we give a lot of really good, resourceful information in regards to where and how toxins show up in our lives. And then how stress is impacting us. And we get into breathing techniques and different modalities in regards to helping.

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vaughan sauverain: you know, shift from a sympathetic nervous system back to a parasympathetic nervous system which you, you know you would have experienced in the transformational detox.

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vaughan sauverain: So you know, explaining in and around the autonomic nervous system compared to the somatic nervous system. And just how that impacts our health.

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vaughan sauverain: So that that's a brand new one that's about to launch. Or we're just launching now. And

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vaughan sauverain: yeah, you can find me on Instagram through Vaughn, sovereign Vaughan Dash sovereign

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vaughan sauverain: or unaligned sovereignty on Instagram as well as

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vaughan sauverain: what else? Is there. And then also my website, the website aligned sovereignty itself.

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vaughan sauverain: And we've got other courses that are in the background, being built out at the moment as well. So all of this is fairly new and getting this stuff out, especially in the course formats. And we've got some beautiful amazing offerings in regards to retreat later on this year, as well as other courses that we're going to be bringing through and sharing with everyone

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Lindsay Ford: Yeah, and I'll have all those links in the show notes before we wrap up. If you could scream one thing from the rooftops that you wanted everyone to know about health. What would it be

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vaughan sauverain: what would it be? It would just be like. Honestly, you're already healthy. We just need to dissolve all these, these aspects of ourselves that have been so heavily ingrained that we believe so much that

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vaughan sauverain: we continue with the the habits and the patterns that are creating.

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vaughan sauverain: Disa's. Essentially

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vaughan sauverain: we already are. We're already we already are perfect in in every essence. It's a matter of like getting away from

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vaughan sauverain: believing that we're imperfect because of our weight, or how we look. Or, you know all these.

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vaughan sauverain: these these constructs in which we've built. So yeah, it would have to be that you're already healthy. It's just a matter of like dissolving these issues essentially

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Lindsay Ford: Well, I think that's a beautiful place to wrap up. Thank you so much for your time today, Vaughn, and all of your insight and wisdom. Appreciate it

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vaughan sauverain: Thank you, Lindsay. I really appreciate your time, too. Thanks for the opportunity